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American/Canadian Propaganda - a Xinjiang "Genocide" Panel
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American/Canadian Propaganda - a Xinjiang "Genocide" Panel
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On March 19th, 2021 a live zoom panel discussing the Xinjiang genocide narrative convened. This panel included Daniel Dumbrill and the following speakers:
Professor Radhika Desai: Author, editor or co-editor of over 10 books and numerous articles, Radhika is an internationally-renowned scholar on developing countries and geo-political economy. She is a Professor of Political Studies at the University of Manitoba, and is the President of the Society of Socialist Studies.
Mme. LU Xu: China’s Consul General in Calgary. She has previously served in China’s Embassies in England, the Czech and Slovak Republics, and the Consulate General in San Francisco. Prior to her appointment to Canada, she was Deputy Director General of Consular Affairs of China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Omar Latif: A long-time activist based in Toronto, he has travelled extensively across the world, including twice to China. Omar visited Xinjiang in the summer of 2019.
Max Blumenthal: is an award winning investigative journalist, author, and filmmaker with a deep understanding of American foreign policy and global politics. Max was one of the earliest journalists to identify a problematic narrative on Xinjiang which he exposed in his independent Grayzone reports.
We discuss western propaganda and the recent vote by Canadian parliament to call the Xinjiang situation a genocide. Daniel Dumbrill had reached out to the following MP's who voted in favour of the motion to join a discussion/interview. All had either ignored or refused to join:
Sameer Zuberi, Ziad Aboultaif, Dan Albas, Leona Alleslev. Dean Allison. William Amos, Gary Anandasangaree, Charlie Angus, Mel Arnold, Jenica Atwin, Taylor Bachran, Vance Badawey, Larry Bagnell, Navdeep Bains, Yvan Baker, Tony Baldinelli, John Barlow, Michael Barrett, Xavier Barsalou-Duval, Jaime Battiste, Mario Beaulieu, Terry Beech, Rachel Bendayan, Bob Benzen, Candice Bergen, Stephane Bergeron, Luc Berthold, Sylvie Bérubé, Lyne Bessette, James Bezan, Chris Bittle, Daniel Blaikie, Maxime Blanchette-Joncas, Rachel Blaney, Steven Blaney, Kelly Block, Kody Blois, Michel Boudrias, Alexandre Boulerice, Blaine Calkins, Richard Cannings, Colin Carrie, Sean Casey, Louise Chabot, Laurel Collins, Michael Cooper, James Cumming, Julie Dabrusin, Marc Dalton, Pam Damoff, Raquel Dancho, Scot Davidson, Claude DeBellefeuille, Gérard Deltell, Chris d'Entremont, Caroline Desbiens, Luc Desilets, Sukh Dhaliwal, Kerry Diotte, Todd Doherty, Terry Dowdall, Terry Duguid, Earl Dreeshen, Eric Duncan, Scott Duvall, Julie Dzerowicz, Martin Champoux, Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe, Wayne Easter, Neil Ellis, Dave Epp, Nathaniel Erskine-Smith and Rosemarie Falk.
Only one MP initially accepted the invite to discuss the matter, Scott Aitchison, his office however cancelled last minute and his office was not interested in rescheduling.
Apologies for the video quality, we ended up with a final recording which had everyone as tiny boxes and I had to manually enlarge and rearrange the video boxes.
Video Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
11:02 Daniel Dumbrill's Presentation
24:43 Mme. LU Xu's Presentation
45:50 Omar Latif's Presentation
1:09:08 Max Blumenthal's Presentation
1:34:39 Q&A
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The following is what I borrowed from a Malaysian YouTuber’s comment:
I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another.
When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire.
Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium.
After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government:
1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free.
2. Make opium legal in China.
Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French (with supports from the US), started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor.
In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance (Empire of Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire (including India), France, USA, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris.
In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone.
Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles.
Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous “black-cat and white-cat” story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from.
In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height.
For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China.
Everything China does is negatively reported.
They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was, Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the labor.
They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy. At the same time, they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to the US.
They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time, the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for university intakes. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the US. China has about 3 times more mosque per muslim than the US.
When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices:
1. Re-educate the Uighur extremists before they turned terrorists.
2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people, bomb their homes.
China chose 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from the sky.
During the pandemic,
When China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were accused of being inhuman.
When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were accused of lying about the actual numbers.
When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated.
Western Media always have reasons to bash China.
Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China which do bad and dirty things, but the China government overall has done very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too good.
Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs (Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy, which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world.
They resort to low dirty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO & banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one. Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country. USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars?
When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products, like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want to pull China down.
The recent movement by the US against China has a very important background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad.
China’s achievement has been by hard work. Not by looting the world.
I have deep sympathy for China for all the suffering, but now I feel happy for them. China is not rising, they are going back to where they belong. Good luck China.
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the JaYoe Nation
the JaYoe Nation
1 day ago
This has to be your best talk yet Daniel.... and I’ve heard you speak a couple great ones. Thank you.
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Rufous Hummingbird
Rufous Hummingbird
2 days ago
Human rights abuses? Let's talk about Y-e-m-e-n, literally fueled via Obiden's intersectional imperialism. Liberal cognitive dissonance knows no bounds, apparently.
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Sarah
Sarah
2 days ago
I wish more Western people would be able to know the truth, not brain washed by their political leaders.
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Lianzi Jin
Lianzi Jin
2 days ago
Daniel, so well said! As a Canadian, other than write a letter to my MP expressing my opposition, of without any response, I don't know what else to do. Democracy doesn't reflecting people's will and when people has no way to express, it is not a democratic society.
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Simon Ng
Simon Ng
2 days ago
People who can't connect the dots between anti Asian behaviour and mainstream media are either too ignorant or stupid. Great material Dan.
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